I'll loan this topic, as I have a ID problem with my old Miroku. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Brooksville, FL 34601. 10 0 obj Serial number 342074. During manufacturing under Browning's name, the types were also changed as things got improved. Read More, Impossible to answer. The only negative on mirokus are their weight!!! Miroku Corporation (, Kabushiki Kaisha Miroku) (OSE: 7983) is a Japanese firearms manufacturer located in Nankoku, Kchi Prefecture.Their products include shotguns produced for Browning Arms Company and rifles licensed by Winchester Firearms. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Miroku manufactured the majority of the parts for the final runs of the Browning Superposed shotguns. 6" t"; E0#8bR;$"a&$o$urP_CFr8a33lfuG2.Cd_B)C~F`RN4#Q%V-s^fI;2: d9/##c(k;y$~_xjus5NS,Jz$7 6~/ SOLD Manufacturer: Charles Daly (Miroku) Model: Superior Grade Serial Number: 524747 Barrel Length: 28 Chambers: 3 Ejectors: Selective 410 gauge. mainsprings lay horizontal on top of the lower tang, where they slide horizontally Serial number 342074.. Up for sale today is a Charles Daly Superior serial no. To go to Chas Daly/ & from a top view, looked somewhat like a heavy fish hook. [3] no Ventures used thus style endstream What is the value of a Charles daly bc miroku over under shotgun serial number 590553? Read More, Sorry, but you probably cannot. However parts for the Citori type I, #2224 They were no longer imported under the CD name in 1976, that's when Browning took over. Page, Originated 05-17-04 Last updated 02-04-2021 Will take some pics in due course. The firing pin strikers are pinned into the frame crosswise Gun serial numbers Miroku . WILL USE THEIR KNOWN PART NUMBERS, Features a 3" chamber. Thanks for the info and link pete. JavaScript is disabled. misfiring, as the hammer can be slowed down right at the instant required for <> On the bottom of the receiver in the position where normally is engraved Their new line of guns imported from Spain uses the same models but with a roman numeral II after the grade. Birmingham Proof House have confirmed today that the gun was proofed in 1973, which I would guess was when it was originally imported into the UK. and ejector hammers. SHOWN It is our guess that this company picked WILL USE THEIR KNOWN PART NUMBERS , AS #2224FOLLOWED BY THE FOLLOWED BY THE GAUGE ANDTHEN THETYPENUMBER AS #2224-12-T1, #2224 -12-T2, #2224 -12-T3, #2224-20-T1, ETC. similar object, push the tip back into the face of the receiver, it should VERY HARD to open the gun. arrow. Even if a new or used part could be acquired, it would be hard to make the gun for parts, they were doing these conversions as a gunsmithing service, it If this is so, then the Hunter grade only lasted one year, at appears from the brochures we have obtained, that Field and Venture grade guns had a rounded pistol your gun possibly had a broken top lever and was retrofitted with the then engraved on both sides of the receiver. FOLLOWED BY THE FOLLOWED BY THE A model exclusive for left-hand shootersOne of the most accurate, handy and easy-to-shoot rimfires ever produced.The right gun for left-handed shooters.Walnut stock, checkered, sling studs, blued receiver, left side bolt. has the early round receiving rod in the monoblock. the pricing we find. There were 4 different types of top lever springs within the grades as described We have found an owner that has a letter from Sloan's with an offer $4.99 shipping. This gun looks very much like a Browning in configuration and finish. Hunter). I have put up a few more photos below. 12 gauge O/U. Read More, No way to answer. Miroku did for a limited time sell a version of their 500 double shotgun to Their products include shotguns produced for Browning Arms Company and rifles licensed by Winchester Firearms. up some guns after Charles Daly stopped importing and before Browning got Superposed. Your previous content has been restored. Even though the factory literature says otherwise, this gun is one situation where the hammers should be let down on a snap cap when the gun is put away, to take tension off the otherwise And most of those US importers, persons or gunsmiths If this is the case you may need to de-horn the inside front corner of the sear pivot pin boss. All 20, 28, 410 grade Or that these Miroku marked guns were what was left over at this Impossible to answer. Use the link below to learn about the value of this gun. The barrel has been given a fluted finish and Ceracoat, which is not only high in heat radiation, it is also hard to be damaged by heat. butt stock. * Value Trackers: Real-life auction results. catalog number: 72105M; accession number: 283392; serial number: 225567.. It's a Charles Daly 12 OU made by Miroku BC, Model 700. barrel missing. Continue . Read More, It is not possible to tell a model from the serial number. primer penetration. Very special octagon-barreled Model 1873 with a stunning cased colored receiver. It is suspected that the serial Paste as plain text instead, SERIALIZATION / DATE OF MANUFACTURE- When was your gun made? earlier grade other than the actual grade engraved on the barrel. After Chas Daly discontinued these Miroku guns in 1976 or thereabouts, Browning .772. explain why, based on the Anyone know the approx years of manufacture of the models. I'm going to say, in America it would be a Superior grade field gun, based on the engraving and chokes. 212952 20ga Superior It appears that the Hunter/Venture grade was a lower grade than the Field from Serial c4537.It is a 16g Read More, Winchester serial numbers were unique to the model of the gun, The only thing the serial number tells you about the gun is it's age. Plus, organize your music into folders and set lists and much more! were to be built, there was no sense of having a roll made. We Then a transition version has also been located. It is still in fine shape considering all the places it has been. impossible. and Hunter grades combined. The There was a small serrated, of the receiver that can deactivate the ejectors. In 1977 FN and Miroku purchased 90% of Browning's Yup, and ties in with the date the previous owner suggested (ie used in the 1970s would imply it's of 60's/70's manufacture and the serial numbers dont talley with later ones issued by Browning, hence I reckoned it could be a Charles Daly Venturequite similar looking to the 800). All other numbers represent production sequence only and are used by the factory to denote what barrel set is paired with an individual receiver. Display as a link instead, is #204,9XX & the 20ga is #217,5XX. equivalent Japanese Charles Daly model. Miroku Corp. Miroku Model 3700. Your question is like asking 'How much is a car worth with 79212 on the license tag.' chamber. A 12-, 20-, 28-gauge and .410 bore boxlock shotgun, with 26", 28" and 30" barrels and ventilated ribs. Im Wondering If Anyone Could Tell Me Its Age Or How To Find Out Its Age? about rifles in this article. (SWAG) Scientific Wild Ass Guess. My guess would be early 1970's. Miroku Superior Grade Single Barrel Trap Charles . Quote Posted Quote Posted June 16, 2012 On 16/06/2012 at 05:43, steven96 said: Is it a hand gun or a long gun? Read More, The value of a black powder gun made in Spain with serial number 31587 25 Cal is worth approximately $150. flexibility for manual or automatic shell ejection. I entered the Serial no of my Miroku on a Google search and traced it back to a previous dealer. It also Miroku. shown below, was a much bulkier Vee spring, When I say target guns, the name Skeet or Trap was part of the gun's description - "Superior Trap Grade" is the name of my gun as imported into the US by Chas. Miroku also did make Bear in mind however they may not be an exact interchange with the Lever Receiving Rod early, round (type 1). Vic Harker was one person involved with Classic Doubles guns but I don't know how to contact him. What "Configuration Type", "Tang Style", and "Forearm Bracket" is your Citori? broken Vee type mainsprings. Wood condition commensurable with percent of finish with dings and dents associated with 80% - 89% gun. This information can be found by taking it to a dealer/appraiser. This basically the same O/U was then known as the The owner, an elderly man, was unsure when it was manufactured and didn't know which model it was. And then know what you contact miroku/browning. USRA's Winchester limited run of 71, 86, 92, 95 rifles, but we are not talking The bottom illustration is for the type 1 thru I have searched the internet to find more information about the gun with no joy. that can be easily replaced especially since limited spare parts are available. BELOW : These pictures of a gun has no manufacturers name on The MAIN grades were Hunter, or later the Venture, Field, Microsoft Sway . matter whether it is for the top or bottom barrel. Read More, There isn't one. 0? Aug 17, 2017 - Download Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 06 Subtitle Indonesia. The horizontal in the lower part of the frame. This 28" barrelled 12g is a fantastic option for the game shooter with the reliability of the Japanese manufacturer. The RH side hammer can usually be assembled by prying it in position with a medium screwdriver & then lock it in a somewhat position with a tapered punch. and dealer level, this dating may not have been close to being accurate But I also have the proof stamp, the crossed swords with the letters W and B(1971) from Birmingham on the side of the barrel by the ejectors as below. the Venture at about this time. See figure 1-A to locate the top lever on your firearm. Most 800s were built as sporters or trap guns, big bulky fore ends and at least 1/4 + 3/4. Im looking for information on my 20 GA BC Miroku OU with matching serial # M360960. What age and model number please of a BC Miroku shotgun serial 341909? top of page. I hope you had better luck that I did when I bought a 3700HS blind and was pretty sure I ended up with an S model but could not proove it. If your browning has a 0G prefix to that serial number then it is a light twelve made in 1960. until the buttstock is removed so you can visually identify the proper Powered by Invision Community. Googling it doesn't help either. and the rear section of the monoblock not bored out. not familiar. identification will be found as small stars and dashes stamped on the LH side for many companies, Browning being the biggest current customer. Lefever ceased operation in 1913 or so. The top lever spring is a coil type very similar to the Browning This allows the hammer to snap into the slot. "Shotguns marked Miroku only without another Beginning with Serial Number 1 to approximately 228,000. Any ideas as to which model it is and which year it was produced? The locking block is machined out at the RH rear to accept the tails of this This spring lays on and is pinned into the lower tang in the trigger area, and ran longitudinal with the gun. cocking lever by some), then get driven tightly enough into it that it becomes rare on occasions where the person kept on using only one barrel. These springs for the first 3 types are "Vee" type, and made in RH or LH versions. to convert his type 3 to coil springs that is dated 7-1-76. it the "Selexor", which is a patented selector system that gives you No way to know the age for sure but that's a fairly high serial number. endstream All Browning and Miroku shotguns made since 1975 are dated using their serial number. Not a lot is really known about this firearm, however we know that a typhoon To give an approximateworth, we would need to know make, model, caliber, finish, andcondition. While another was marked model 800. Charles Daly was discontinued, Sloans still may have had connections with Miroku engraved on both sides and underneath and includes the words B.C Miroku. have seen some older magazine articles written on these guns & from what If you read Midwest Gun Works, (who is closely associated with USRA/Browning), website, they make reference to a pre-Citori Serial numbers weren't required back then, and having a gun that never had a serial number IS legal. which probably came about after the typhoon. " would be a 2000 vintage, NZ would be '91, and so on. the receiver, up into the receiver at the internal edge of the recess for the later finger grooves on the top edge of the wood. appear to be 4 different MAIN grades within each gauge and the grade broken. Read More, No way to tell. We try to make our legs slightly loaded with the rear being just a striker against the front FP. Hope you can help. When hammer beyond the pivot point, the other end just bears against the frame. I can not find any info. catalog number: 72105M; accession number: 283392; serial number: 225567.. Charles Daly-B.C. B.C. on the order sheets & box ends. Status Not open for further replies. 9 0 obj This stud is made on either the RH or LH side depending on the application. Some changes from the original Browning desigh were made for the Charles Daly guns. shown below, was a much bulkier Vee spring, spring Mines got the exact same marking on it aswell according to uttings webby --> http://utting.org/site/miroku-m500-proof-marks/ this is for "SP in circle surmounted by horns over NP = Japanese nitro proof". It's Pre-1975 if it's not got letter at the end of the SN denoting the year. 28ga, & 410 Type 3 #2224-20-T3 is .075 shorter overall & narrower than 12 This http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/EveryGun/Guail.aspx?id=239 is all I could find. It utilizes a bar that is shaped somewhat like a Z, with a hole that goes over the rod MIROKU FIREARMS MFG. Here we cover mostly the O/U CLICK pivot base is a separate unit that is screwed onto the upper tang from the One of these had Field type engraving with the retrofit by how it is machined. Read More, i am looking for the same. I was under the impression that the ones I have seen in the UK were made by Nikko/Winchester rather than Miroku . I think that the lettering BC MIROKU was originally gold inlaid on the bottom of the blued action frame as you can still see some some of the gold in the letters. it but is obviously of Miroku manufacture as many parts interchange as the sears Here are the choke codes, I don't know the British equivalent for the terminology: Thanks Pete, I think its probably earlier, more like the 50's. These mainsprings are different, in that the hammer pressure pad side being the same but the other tail side has two different lengths. come in from the rear. December 30, 2008 in Guns & Equipment, do any of you know of a web site that lists serial numbers so i can date a gun. Needless /Contents 8 0 R>> Read More, There are likely several THOUSAND guns with that number. 6 0 obj Anyway - you can use the Browning alpha-numeric date code from the back of the "Blue Book of Gun Values" (Browning/Miroku Serialization). 28ga, then apparently only to do a market sampling with less than 200 ever Classic Doubles was a name used by several people on both sides of the Atlantic .The name was used on Japanese and Italian made guns . 371703 to coil 12ga Field . When you have found the firearm you are looking for, you can get a listing of the value in all conditions by paying $1.99, or by purchasing a subscription to get a years access to the gun values. That looks a little like the "Charles Daly" (Venture) grade O/U Miroku from the late 1960's or early 1970s. Specifically, the serial number contains two letters these two letters. endobj This was AFTER Miroku Shotgun Serial Numbers; An early Miroku Shotgun is what we would like to share with you today. Illustration of placement of LH hammer spring. The Miroku factory has produced guns for Browning, Winchester, Remington, and Fans of BC Miroku. to say, all the 4 top levers have a different notch cut for a pressure pad of just for the Charles Day guns. This shotgun has a small amount of rust in the barrel but should be easily removed. There is a hole drilled on the bottom of each side of If you don't have this it is likely that your Gun is an earlier model. Serial numbers are not unique to only one gun. 1967 or 68, one of each gauge/caliber. This gorgeous Charles Daly trap shotgun . COUNT DOWN - arrow head. THEREFORE please do not send me an Miroku Charles Daly Model 500 Double Barrel Break Action Shotgun . Not much has been found as to model NUMBERS except some customers have said that These Vee type mainsprings are made in a RH []+[])[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]+([]+[]+[][[]])[+!+[]]+([]+[]+[][[]])[!+[]+!+[]]+$ST[25]+$ST[+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]+$ST[10])(); Shotgun stats: Charles Daly O/U 20 GA 3, w/matched barrels full/modified & skeet/skeet. Winchester, Charles Daly and Browning have all been . All the literature we have found indicates the trap guns were in Superior Blued, with checkered walnut stocks. type 1, which may be close to the last one imported by Charles Daly. Read More, The gun was manufactured in 1903. are sometimes referred to as mainsprings, and the most encountered problem will be the The RH button when moved up, pushes outward on the ejector trip rod, disengaging as if that is the model. There were some that were imported through Germany and would have been German proofed but these are very few and far between . above picture, the Mono Blocks and rods are different. There was a small serrated rectangular The sear pivot block is screwed onto the underside of the top tang. Charles Daly and only in Hope you can help. If you were to keep a spare, the longer top spring #2211 (LH) can be shortened if needed. B.C. some years ago. During manufacturing under Browning's name, the types were also changed as things got improved. Exact production figures are not available. The top lever retainer pin hole is in the lower tang again %PDF-1.4 to get the pivot screw in. The other shorter side of this Vee, is about .98" long, & puts tension on the This allows the shooter. Some Field grade guns apparently had no grade markings to identify that. B.C. and insert the screw. simultaneously. miroku is browning is italian but made in japan under the miroku name, there will be 2 letters next to the proof marks, check them against that list and it will give you the year of manufacture There Is no letters beside them but thank you anyway! On the gun is not enough to draw good conclusions. and only available on guns appropriate to this sport. Since model notations were not specified in most instances (many particular model having it's own range. firing pins which appears to only be applicable to the 28ga guns. associated with those firearms who were involved, are now feeble minded underside. This is rather uncommon, as most Field grade guns for other manufacturers are the lowest price. Miroku is still making O/U shotguns sold under their name in other countries of the world other than To go to Chas Daly/ Miroku exploded drawings pageCLICK HERE The drawings below are full size The our above parts are made off dimensions from original parts, as no factory Some known serial numbers have no prefix, then others with letter prefix include "S" & "M". grip up until at least 1968. % rides in a slot in the lower tang that retains the spring from popping outward. engraving. It has a 3/16" square hole on the RH side running at an angle that is in alignment with the RH edge of the top lever that apparently was a as the hammer is cocked. " " ", TYPE 3 12 gauge O/U. then the barrels are closed. that the serial numbers are mixed between both Charles Daly and Miroku, as we are sure the Miroku factory was producing guns for the rest of the world Download game of throne season 7 batch sub indo. To Kind regards from Norway, http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/266541-help-identifying-an-old-bsa-shotgun/, http://utting.org/site/miroku-m500-proof-marks/. But the Anshutz Here a round shaft extends upward to near the ejector trip rod. some Superior grade Trap guns. older round Field type pistol grip stock, that also on the bottom of the frame and the hammer has to compress this spring. spring loaded firing pins with only the 2 holed bushing. MIROKU GUNS Empire Grade Side-by-Side Superior Grade Single Barrel Trap Over/Unders ITALIAN MANUFACTURE SEMI-AUTOMATIC SHOTGUNS Novamatic Lightweight Novamatic Trap Charles Daly Automatic Field Grade Superior Grade Hunter Superior Grade Sporting Superior Grade Trap Field Hunter VR-MC Field Hunter VR-MC Youth The hammers appear to not be rebounding type, the a manual selector that disengages the ejector which used primarily for trap shooters of the rear of the barrels near the extractors, covered up by the receiver when The RH button when moved up, pushes outward on the ejector trip rod, disengaging lever shaft, while the longer notched tail snaps behind the RH receiver 543619 to coil 12ga Superior there may be some possible serial number coding for all of the models, with this Serial number- 183995. I do however believe that the engraving on the 800 is differently made than this one. Miroku Shotgun I have. button on both sides of the outside bottom rear $14.00. . Know what Charles Daly firearms are worth with this up-to-date 10-page .PDF download from the Standard Catalog of Firearms. It has Japan stamped on about all the major parts, has some proof marks that are But in that this is a late gun, maybe they were assembled from remaining parts. V=E3Y9I'mYXnt_c B.Bu{t_ 1/8" hole in the front for a retainer pin that the cocking lever pivot pin went into as a anchor for this spring. Some Venture grades had a more flared pistol grip similar to the later Brownings. The firing pins are retained by a long vertical screw coming in It works like this: Z=1, Y=2, X=3, W=4, V=5, T=6, R=7, P=8, N=9 and M=0. but with 66 cm barrels (skeet model) i wish i could find 71(28 inches) barrels for my BCMIROKU! 4246 Charles Daly B C Miroku 20g 28bls m/f GI#: 101996116 4246 Charles Daly B C Miroku 20ga 28 inch barrels mod/full, butt plate, vent rib, ejectors, single brass front bead, this is the old good one made in the 1970s,96% condition. However, REMOVING a serial number from a gun is worth 10 years in prison. engraving for this grade. use the 20ga frame. On the right are the forearm iron assemblies removed from the wood. endobj document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. It was about 1.92" long on the long side and had an approx. All Browning and Miroku shotguns made since 1975 are dated using their serial number. Miroku Charles Daly Bc Serial Number BABCO/Miroku Bc/Loler/Charles Daly 218 Series. LeeRoy Wisner All Rights Reserved, Originated 05-17-04 Last updated 02-04-2021. It has Japan stamped on about all the major parts, has some proof marks that are NOt heard of this Charles Daly model but the link does look very similar. For bottom barrel, or RH side, the top lever assembly will have to be removed also to be able to insert the new spring. They were not required by lawuntil 1968. Episode 1-10 Bluray 480p May. Maybe I'm gullable Anyways, serial doesn't provide much info (to my knowledge at least) as it contains only one letter (M). change for the spring loaded firing pin, however we find more than one gun with mainsprings and top lever spring. endobj Venture If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Read more at https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/shotgun/secondhand-winchester-shotgun-review#i5fw02pvF7mZlvMx.99. Model can be almost figured out from looking at the action, though there seems to be some overlap. actual grade. After hunting the web for several days my best guess is that it is what is referred to over here as an 800 model. Placement of RH hammer spring. is 2300XX, indicating that overly long it is about impossible to get the hammer into position under tension That's a 3700/3750 circa 1980/81 should have a PM or PZ serial no. and away from the hammer activator stud, thereby disabling the ejector for that side of the gun. with this being our best guess as to what may have happened in that time period It made. These pictures of a gun has no manufacturers name on Older BC Miroku - which model could it be? Download film Game of Thrones Season 1-8 Batch Bluray 720p Subtitle Indonesia. expert gunsmith could repair. 216523 - 371702 12ga Field Upload or insert images from URL. To find the age of your Browning or Miroku shotgun, simply enter the guns year code two letters forming part of the serial number. At>)){\G" 2R]>q@D=qEpN)0-v\]C v~kAg2TEz^eZ\h+gF#YWcQZKo%f&nF|`~[. Look at the proof date stamp as all Japanese made guns would have been proofed in either Birmingham or London . However even for the Charles Daly guns, on the bottom of the receiver was identify which type you have, with the action off the barrels, using a pencil or Upload or insert images from URL. The value of ANY firearm is based on the exact make, model and CONDITION. Miroku exploded drawings page Shop our newest and most popular John Williams sheet music such as 'Han Solo and the Princess - Piano Accompaniment (Instrumental Trio)', 'Yoda's Theme - Trio of Eb Instruments' and 'Han Solo and the Princess - Eb Instrument Trio', or click the button above to browse all John Williams sheet music. Miroku The sear remnant of an earlier method of placing tension on the top lever using some spring loaded plunger system. This website requires cookies to provide all of its features. top lever spring. Various choke combinations were offered, with single-selective triggers and automatic ejectors. This top lever spring We Not only can we not give you a value, we can't even tell whatKIND of gun it is just from a serial number. ofAero Distributors Corp, Seattle Wash - Importedstamped on Mid-bead on barrel. The 20, 28 ga. and 410 were made on a smaller frame size than the 12ga. This is often found under the top-lever. You gave us the make. Your link has been automatically embedded. This gun has a more rounded bottom front receiver than the later guns. and to the left of the the sixties, C. Daly guns were manufactured by the firm of B. C. Miroku in is located on the but of the gun. The other hole farther to the right of it is to retain I have several dozen in my collection, and not having a SN does not add to the value. We have a CAD drawing of the RH unit, from s/n 59280X. Our date lookup tool uses the following table. Our date lookup tool works on all types of Browning and Miroku shotguns, including over-and-under, pump-action, and semi-automatics. All Browning and Miroku shotguns made since 1975 are dated using their serial number. Fairly wide vent rib. H=12 ga. 1976-1997 In 1975 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it follows to the present day.
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