Also important is to use bullets with a cannelure and to crimp the case mouth to keep the bullet from being pushed back into the case under recoil, which can raise pressures dramatically. Hey guys, i've got one of the Remington 700 SPS in 17 Fireball. Knowledge is the most precious AccurateShooter.com has load data for .223 Rem, 6mmBR, .243 Win, 6.5x47 Lapua, .308 Win, 6.5-284 and 7mm cartridges, with info on brass, powders . Same goes for the Mach IV and Fireball, although the velocity difference between the two bullet weights is less in them. I've managed to get 5 shot groups of .55" @ 100, and 1.70" @ 300. chosen because it has a 24" barrel, the standard length used by most : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. Turning to the Speer FN bullets, the 180-grain version favored a charge of 46.0 grains at 2,316 fps. Starting with a load of 23-grain RL15 with a 15-grain Berger produces 3,610fps. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. Similar threads 17 fireball and reloader 10 bobcat93 Apr 12, 2016 Reloading Forum (All Calibers) Rob. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. 24.0g of IMR 4350 with a Rem 7 1/2 (Warning do not use a thin cup primer with the 17 Remington) 25g bullet = 4100+ Decopper your barrel frequently, use good bronze bristle brushes often and throw them away after 100 strokes. group 1-3/4"; mean average group = 1-1/8". Simply run a case through the Ackley full-length resizer and it is ready to load. like the weather in Eugene, wait a while and it will change.) Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. For my money, the best all-round bullets for the .35 Rem. The 220-grain bullet clocked 2,131 fps over 43.0 grains of LVR. Hornady, Remington, and Winchester list new cartridge cases, although the modest popularity of the round makes their availability spotty. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. Bought one several years ago, since I load 17HH and 17 Rem. OBrien also offered custom XP-100 pistols chambered for his cartridge, and the barrels were marked .17 Mach III to indicate lower velocity in the shorter barrel. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. Seated to touch & group sizes will double. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. You can trust these magazines day in and day out they are reliable, affordable, and widely available. at 3,400 fps and zeroed the same is down three inches at 100 yards. Best accuracy came with the 20-grain V-Maxs at 100 yards, with all shots hovering at 0.45in. When I prepare for the spring gopher campaign, I load a big batch of .223s with this powder and 40-grain bullets. Kindler 30gr Gold bullets and RL-15 takes the .17 Rem to a new level of killing power. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several . Considering that I can't get anywhere close to the lands, I think this about the best I can do. CCI's published 100 yard that the averages below would have been smaller if testing had taken At 200 yards, the velocity has lost a further 1,000fps and is around the 2,000fps mark and energy has dropped to 133ft/lb. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. It has a 22-inch barrel with a 1:14 twist, and it wears is a Traditions 3-9X 40mm scope. I have experimented with H380, Varget and other powders and they all work well. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. 2. and 28-degree shoulder. Most factory ammo features 50gr to 60gr projectiles.The 22-250 Remington Load Data for Peregrine Bullets is made available to enhance accuracy and consistency for the rifle connoisseur. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. All Rights Reserved. sport, so these results are more indicative of real world performance. tried to do our shooting on calm days. mine likes 4895 either hodgens or imr 20gr vmax or 25 gr bergers half inch or better 3 shot groups. all five .17 HMR loads delivered significantly higher velocity and energy figures for this load at 100 yards are 1901 fps and Travis if you are interrested in the load PM me and I'll send it. The .35 Rem. Wind resistance? of sight. The M1903 Springfield, officially the United States Rifle, Caliber .30-06, Model 1903, is an American five-round magazine-fed, bolt-action service repeating rifle, used primarily during the first half of the 20th century.. The smallest cartridge was the .25-35 Winchester, which preceded the .30-30 Winchester by a few months, both of which were introduced in 1895. Some burn cleaner, some have better load densities, but RL15 stands out as the best in my gun yours may well be different. Plus, these fine-grained powders metered well. The powder also shot well with 50-grain bullets fired in the .22-250. Combine it with a hollow point or polymer tip bullet, and varmints and other small game don't stand a chance. published MV by a whopping 125 fps. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. Re: 17 Remington Load Data. I do NOT recommend this load for any other 41 Mag revolver. This fast-burning, double-base, extruded powder is made in Canada. Give a Gift barm # 13676946 03/21/19. It is about 600 fps faster than the .17 Hornets and an honest 300 fps faster than the Mach IV and the Fireball. shooter error--were ignored, but all other hits were included in the Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. mean average group = 1-17/32". One is the Marlin Model 336 lever action (made in 1975). The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. 3. Of course, varmint hunting is an outdoor Groups were measured from center to center of the Thats why, even today, people who talk of the .17 say it dirties barrels, burns out barrels and is affected by the wind because of the lightweight projectile. Additionally, ammunition for the .17 HMR is often somewhat cheaper, too; for instance, MidwayUSA lists loads priced from $10.99 to $14.99 per fifty-round package, with the leadless options comprising the . Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. The Sierra 200-grain RN is very similar to Hornadys, and it registered 2,198 fps with a charge of 43.0 grains of LVR; it grouped into an inch or less. The .32-40 and .38-55 blackpowder cartridges came first, as Winchester had not yet perfected harder, nickel-steel barrels for the jacketed bullets that were loaded later in smokeless-powder rounds. HORNADY Varmint Express: smallest group 5/8"; largest My 17 won't shoot the 20 gr VMAX and the 25 seems to give better air time. can also be quite accurate. Made in Canada, this intermediate-burning, single-base extruded powder works best in the .22-250 Remington, .220 Swift and .243 Winchester. barrel, the rifle for which this load was specifically designed. load in a winchester mod. Jun 13, 2012. Similarly, the 18-grain bullet, setting off at the same velocity of 4,300fps, has a greater energy figure of 739ft/lb and at 100 yards has dropped to 3,158fps and 398ft/lb, better than the 15 grain but not much. (If you don't The .17 HMR loads we use include ammunition from CCI with 17 grain TNT bullet, CCI A17 with 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain TNT bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Hornady with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Remington Premier with 17 grain AccuTip-V bullet and Winchester Supreme with 17 grain V-MAX bullet. measured group sizes. Best powders (Several gun experts of my acquaintance think the likelihood of such an explosion is slight, but why take a chance?). Joined: Dec 2015. The claimed Theres another point thats important when reloading the .35 Rem. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. But I and my customers experienced an almost Zen-like target using my commercial 230g Golden Saber SD load. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. In my opinion, as a dedicated varmint rifle it has a lot to offer the British shooter if used sensibly. Revolver Is Back, Ruger MAX-9 9mm Micro-Sized High-Capacity Pistol: Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now. CCI TNT ammo exceeded its advertised MV by 34 fps, the Federal Premium Good factory-loaded .22-250 ammunition is offered by Black Hills, Federal, Hornady, Remington, and Winchester. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. This was before coyotes invaded the East and decimated the groundhog population, so we accounted for our share of them. This means the bullet hits dead on at 145 yards and about 1.5" low at Available as a flat-base design or Maximum Expansion Factor (MEF) bullet, both provide super-fast velocities coupled with a very flat trajectory and sheer on-target energy transfer. British deer: A guide to identifying the six species found here and where to stalk them, Choosing the right bullets for deer stalking. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. Alternatives, getting heavy I have found that Alliant RL15 has been the most consistent and accurate powder to use. It is important to note that the SAAMI maximum average pressure (MAP) of the .35 Rem. It was chambered for cartridges that were designed to be direct competitors of the M94s cartridges. As with any reloading project, after charging the cases, it is prudent to shine a flashlight into each and every case to see that they all have powder in them and that the powder is at the same level. Powder shortages over the last few years have also aided Accurates acceptance, as handloaders turned to alternatives for unavailable favorites. All rights reserved. Our .17 M2 ammunition includes Hornady, Remington and CCI brands, all using a 17 grain bullet at an advertised MV of 2100 fps. This is based on instrumental The (left) .22-250 Remington is based on a necked-down .250 Savage. I'll be trying a load .5 gr. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. Twenty-five grains of RL15 then tips the magical 4,000fps limit with an average velocity of 4,175fps and 580ft/lb of energy. Federal Hunter Match. My most accurate 222 rem. Bullet weight: 168, 180 Berger HVLDs. We show you how. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Slower-burning powders, such as Accurate 2460 and Ramshot TAC, increase velocities with heavier bullets, but not all that much. Groups were nice round clusters, not two here and three there. Ballistic uniformity was just fine, with the coefficient of variation (C.O.V.) First Focal Plane vs. Second Focal Plane Scopes Explained: Which is Best? Not good. Greetings. Powder charges dispense precisely from a powder measure, cutting down on the time loading .223s for the spring gopher campaign. This American-made, double-base spherical powder is a slower derivative of A-2230. All bullets were molly coated, and the groups are 5 shots at 100 yards. CCI BR-4. at 4,300 fps and is zeroed two inches high at 100 yards, it is dead on the money at 300 yards. We have found the accuracy potential of all three cartridges to be excellent and essentially the same. This is using the 25 VMAX and Benchmark. I also load 72gr in a Browning X-bolt, for a good . Re: Most accurate 223/5.56 factory ammo brand When testing loads for a Sav 10FP 24" 1:9" barrel, Hornady 75gr HPBT (Moly), the same load from BH, and a handload using that bullet and 26.5gr of Ramshot Big Game shot indistinguishably and quite well. Absolute minimum barrel gap and the barrel nut tight. I am sure When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. A form die set is required if .221 Fireball cases are used, but those lucky enough to find Remington .17 Fireball brass can simply run them through a .17 Mach IV full-length sizing die, add primer, powder and bullet, and head for the varmint fields. Accuracy was great, but velocity was slower than with other powders. Drifts at 300 yards in a 10-mph cross breeze are 14 inches for the .17 Hornet versus 11 inches for the .223 Rem. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. Reloaders should be careful not to mix or switch case brands with a chosen load. air movement in the hills and it does enlarge .17 HMR groups. As always, it behooves anyone with a .17 HMR varmint largest group 2-3/8"; mean average group = 1-13/32". As A-2230s name implies, its designed around the .223 Remington. Well, the reasons are simple. 136 ft. lbs. It may be a touch too slow burning for the .22-250 still, 55-grain bullets reached slightly over 3,600 fps with groups close to .5 inch. The best load I ever came up with was; Bullet Remington's 25gr HP, when you could get them, you may find a few still around if not {Substitute Hornady 25gr HP} The powder charge I used was; On the primers for a .17 Remington; I used Federal 205, 205M, CCI BR-4, CCI 450, and CCI#41 {the #41 was a mistake} WSR, RWS 4033 and Russian KVB-223 all properly seated. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. WARNING: The loads shown here are safe only in the guns for which they were developed. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. .17 Remi Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. The powders have a number ranking. Then you seem to have a .244, not a 6mm Remington. It can be loaded in the .22 Hornet and in the .223 Remington with 55-grain and lighter bullets. course of chronographing the five types of ammunition. You need initial penetration before expansion within the vital area otherwise nasty surface wounds are all that prevail, and therefore I would stick to 20 grain or even 25 grain as a minimum for foxes (unless very close) and 15 grain to 18 grain for rabbits. I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. Remington's Premier load offers a 17 grain AccuTip-V To achieve a balance between keeping the bullet together on firing while travelling up the bore, the bullet actually has to be tough around the jacket and therefore the tip is really the only area that can be fragile to initiate expansion. Subscriber Services. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. If so, look no further than the .17 Remington calibre, which has been overrated by some and written off by others. This load shot a 1.05-inch group at 100 yards, with four of the bullets in .61 inch. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. ft. lbs. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Accurate Arms was incorporated in McEwen, Tennessee, in 1980, after several years of selling surplus powders from the U.S. government. Its the same powder as Ramshots X-Terminator. The 200-grain FTX load with 46.0 grains of LVR averaged 2,163 fps with a 0.83-inch group average. Nov 2, 2020. (Both 15-grain and 18-grain bullets can be loaded faster but you are restricted by barrel length to achieve velocities and erratic bullet performance, blow-ups for instance.). The data guide lists .223 Remington loads for A-2495 with 80- and 90-grain bullets. Remington surprised everyone by legitimising the .17 by not domesticating the .17/223 cartridge, as expected, but by using the .223 case and pushing the shoulder back, therefore producing a longer neck. CCI TNT: smallest group 1/2"; largest group 2-1/4"; It never failed, allways shot them behind the shoulder. A number of the cartridges were Ackleys designs while the others had been sent to him by various other developers for inclusion in his two-volume Handbook For Shooters & Reloaders. loads we compared for this article. I fired 21 handloads in the Model 336 and 10 loads in the Outfitter. Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? this comparison is the accuracy results. The 260 has become very popular in sniper shooting competitions. The accuracy and integrity of the larger 30 grain ensures a better ballistic coefficient and, as such, retains more energy down-range and is better constructed to penetrate foxes yet still expand without any nasty entry wounds, so long as the range is not too long.
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