"If you're operating a million-watt radar, the question might be: Why invest in this hull in the first place? by Cheeks Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:37 pm, Post "We've put it though various sea states to find how the ship handles in regular seas. This significantly reduces the radar cross-section since such a slope returns a much less defined radar image rather than a more hard-angled hull form. In expressing their confidence in the design, Navy officials said that recent meetings and reviews have concentrated on other technology areas and not addressed any concerns with the ship's configuration. The opposite of tumblehome is flare . The French could see the advantages of the design, but were not aware of the scale of the weaknesses - without the ability to do computer modelling of the design, or direct evidence of them, there was no way of knowing their extent. What do all you experts have to say? The first three levels are constructed of steel, while the upper four levels, or superstructure, are being made of the balsa-cored carbon/vinyl ester sandwich panels. W.L.Crothers, McGraw Hill (1997). Public discussion of the shape largely ended when the Northrop team was picked. You are using an out of date browser. Chief designers can completely change the styles used by a navy. On a large cruising cat this could affect performance and is also an advantage when maneuvering at close quarters in cross winds. According to Downey, as quoted by USNI, tumblehome is the only method the best naval architects and designers could produce the least bow wake, stern wake and reduce radar cross section. This is an area of hull dynamics that is rarely discussed, but dependent on the shape of the topsides, as a boat heels the vertical center of gravity moves both vertically and horizontally relative to the center of buoyancy at any given heel angle. Concerns over the hull go beyond the DDG 1000 class. Foster House and Stable were designed during an experimental period by Frank Lloyd Wright in 1900 and have some rare design features including Japanese-influenced upward roof flares at all of the roof peaks and on each dormer. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 5482 0 obj <>stream 0000013927 00000 n Thanks for all the answers, I got the idea that Tumblehomes were bad from the wikipedia article on the subject and I now see that it was very flawed. When you talk about a stability curve for a boat with moderate tumblehome, the modeling of the hull below the waterline and in particular area just below the maximum beam becomes very critical as this controls whether the boat builds stability progressively or whether the boat simply flops over until fetching up against the bulge in the curve lurching to a halt as the stability builds. by Cheeks Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:51 am, Post This serves a couple of functions. The ship's topsides are streamlined and free of clutter, and even the two 155mm guns disappear into their own angular housings. A forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. French tumblehome also had the advantage of helping deflect projectiles in this era of short-range gunnery (which got nullified by QF HE guns), and allowed them to mount broadside batteries that could also fire forward. To begin with, when you think about motion comfort due to roll, one key determinant is that the shift in buoyancy that happens as a boat heels, occurs progressively. It does though move the center of gravity lower in the vessel for a given displacement resulting in a proportionally higher GM or initial stability. [2] A French yard was contracted to construct the pre-dreadnought battleship Tsesarevich along the lines of France's Jaurguiberry, which was delivered to the Russian Imperial Navy in time for it to fight as Admiral Wilgelm Vitgeft's flagship at the Battle of the Yellow Sea on 10 August 1904. At one point the commanding officer of the ship, Captain Andrew Carlson, was told by his second in command that the ship was in Sea State Six but later said it felt as though they were only in Sea State Three, where waves average only 2 to 3 feet. Tumblehome designs have some major advantages for battleship designs. The drawing here (done by Mann at Power & Motoryacht's request) illustrates what he thinks are the several aspects of design that make for a true Carolina-type sportfishing boat, namely flare, flam, S-frame (or S-curve, a hullside design element), and extreme tumblehome. ", Syring addressed claims that the ship was in danger in quartering seas waves that come at the ship from behind by saying: "There is a wide range of safe seas on a quartering heading in Sea State Eight.". Touring and expedition canoe hulls need to take lake waves (and moderate whitewater) and still have good hull speed. The industry source said that throughout the design process, "decisions about systems to leave or replace, [changes in] weight and displacement were a continuing consideration. Start New Search | Return to SPE Home; Toggle navigation; Login; powered by i 2 k Connect 2 k Connect by RodeoClown Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:25 am, Post Experts offer their predictions. (Robert F. Bukaty/AP) Their analyses of the battle discouraged construction of new tumblehome ships, as did increasing use of models and small scale tests in naval architecture. the disappearance of tumblehome on battleships was about the same time as the appearance of the dreadnoughts IIRC, where we can see very different arnament, engines and armour defining the ships design. With a relative location of the steering stops, the size of the propellers and the stability of its so-called tumblehome design, it seems that Zumwalt-class destroyers appears to be one of the Navys most comfortable rides. In 21st century automobile designs this turnunder is less pronounced or eliminated to reduce aerodynamic drag and to help keep the lower portions of the vehicle cleaner under wet conditions. In more modern designs it was often about cheating some racing rule. Board index In short, this is the Zumwalt class with all of the ability and a significant achievement that brings it one step closer to being able to carry out operational missions, no matter how limited, in more challenging situations. Any flooding of the ship will reduce the stability to the point of capsize, while a conventional design will be much more resistant to such damage. Model of a French 74-gun ship from 1755 showing tumblehome as its hull narrows rising to the upper deck. "All these things can get a little confusing," concludes Mann . Green water is a strong nonlinear phenomenon of ship-wave interaction, the variation of free surface . Essentially, no one has ever been to sea on a full-sized ship of this type. Since the center of gravity does not move, this in effect means that a plot of the stability curve changes shape gently and without humps as the boat is rotated through a full cycle. Flare Inward-sloping sides made it more difficult to board by a vessel by force, as the ships would come to contact at their widest points, with the decks some distance apart. Minimize total hull resistance at maximum speed Generate adequate beam to arrange container cells nine-across within the hull Provide protection against deck wetness for containers stowed above the main deck Provide excellent freeboard forward Minimize its metacentric height and therefore maximize its roll period Damp roll motions at high speed Navy officials and engineers insist the design is safe, and point to extensive testing using computers and a variety of scaled-down models that have sailed test tanks and coastal areas such as the Chesapeake Bay. Abstract The tumblehome hull adopts some novelty designs such as low-tumblehome freeboard and wave-piercing bow. The dimensions of the DDG-1000's seven-level deckhouse are approximately 160 ft long by 70 ft wide by 65 ft high (48.8m by 21.3m by 19.8m). There are a lot of questions about the hull form, the tactical rationale for a stealth ship that's constantly radiating, the need for the guns.". ", But he still harbors doubts. Advantages of hull flare can include improvements in stability, splash and wash suppression, and dockside utility. in my opinion, a tumblehome hull is always inferior to a flaring hull in seakeeping and stability (for reasons described above). In modern days forward swept bows are used so the anchor is far enough forward not to be dropped on the sonar assembly under the water line. You have to figure that some of the ships are going to take hits.". "The very best people have been working on this thing," said the retired senior naval officer. Five more are planned, far fewer than the 32 once envisioned. "They've modeled Hurricane Camille [a Category Five storm of 1969] and they run it through that. 0000013074 00000 n 0000005888 00000 n There's a lot of confidence in designing a conventional hull. A tumblehome curve can make it easier for a paddler to reach over the side and get a proper vertical forward stroke. Well-modeled double enders are not easy to mould in fiberglass since there was often some tumblehome in the stern making it hard to remove them from a single part mould . . 5448 0 obj <> endobj ", "These retired folks don't have the data that I have," Syring said. And tumblehome at the stern is a design feature that most custom builds and even some production boats boast. Logic will get you from A to B Imaginocean will take you everywhere else www.worldwideflood.com/ark/design_draft/midship_section.htm, http://images.google.com/images?q=tumblehome&hl=en&btnG=Search Images, http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&q=flare+boats, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). Elliptical transoms had little or no impact on the hydrodynamocs of the boat, but they surely look beautiful to the eye. "Unequivocally.". The long deep and narrow fore portion of the hull resembles an axe. Shouldered tumblehome, in which the hull flares out to a "shoulder" of maximum beam a few inches below the sheer line and then sharply recurves in to the gunwales, offers the advantages of a flared hull in that it sheds water well and has good secondary stability, but reduces the width at the gunwales. IJN Warships vs Torpedoes: How many hits to sink a . . Copyright 2021 - Forces Project - All Right Reserved. "The last thing I'd be doing right now is to award ship-construction contracts if the technical people have problems.". . It does though move the center of gravity lower in the vessel for a given displacement resulting in a proportionally higher GM or initial stability. Can someone post a picture or describe tumble home. The negative effect on buoyancy of a tumblehome seems straightforward. Naval architecture is, even today, a field where personal opinions and styles have a great effect. One of the first ironclad warships, the CSSVirginia of 1862, could be considered an early example of this integral trend. That curvature made the hull stronger than what a slab side would. ", "There are some sea states and conditions where you just can't do anything you want," said the retired senior naval officer. These two factors mean that more weight can be devoted to the ship's main belt armour, or to armament. And I'm giving short shrift to the discussion of form stability versus ballast conditioned stability. 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It all comes down to how the specific boat is modeled. by RodeoClown Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:31 am, Post "It is very mature at this point.". When will the war in Ukraine end? The magnitudes of the motion transfer functions increase as the wave slope increased. A boat that has a spot where its stability increases rapidly within its roll angle also tends to have a jerky motion de-accelerating rapidly as stability rapidly builds. Norman Friedman, a naval consultant and author of a series of design histories on naval warships, said, "This thing has a very good potential for causing a lot of problems. [1] Flare can also induce instability when it raises the center of gravity and lateral torque moment of a vessel too much (by negatively impacting its righting moment and metacentric height ). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The claim is that this was introduced during the galleon era when large numbers of canons could make the hull top-heavy. The senior surface warfare officer also supported the design team. PRICE CODE 17 18.SECURITY CLASSIFEA- TION CATIONOF REPORT Unclassified SECURITY CLASSIFI-OF THIS PAGE 19. Older warships had loads of it -- was that about gunnery, or sailing? This shape allows the ship to easily pass through the waves and keeps the up and down motion of the ship to the minimum when compared to a normal bow. Given just the right conditions, some say, it could even roll over. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . 14 SUBJECT TERMS Tumblehome, Wallsided, hydrostatic, damaged stability 15. Was that part of the reason for late adoption of superfiring turrets, especially in some navies? This also strongly reduces the ship's resistance to underwater damage. The bow and stern should have low enough volume, however, to cleave waves easily. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The early skin kayaks of the Arctic relied on wooden ribs and longitudinal stringers for form. Its long, angular "wave-piercing" bow lacks the rising, flared profile of most ships, and is intended to slice through waves as much as ride over them. Flare Flare shaped canoes feature sides that flare outwards from the waterline to the gunnels. The ship's induction motors generated a whopping 58 megawatts of electricity while cruising, enough to power the entire 17,630-ton ship thanks to an Integrated Power System. 0000000016 00000 n "It all comes down to engineering and science," he said. p54. Comparative model experiments show that a ship fitted with a bulbous bow can require . Tumblehome hulls haven't been seen on naval ships in over a century. Keywords Nonlinear ship motion Weakly-nonlinear method CFD Cited by (0) View full text Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post %PDF-1.6 % But the doubts persist despite the Navy's declarations of confidence in the design. 0000136777 00000 n
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